NB This is a raw recording of a conversation on a new app called Locker Room, which is providing us with the chance to podcast remotely during a time when we otherwise would not be able to. If you want to listen live at 9pm on Monday nights, download Locker Room on your iPhone and follow George Bellshaw, James Gray and Calvin Betton.

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