The Pomp Podcast
The Pomp Podcast
Anthony Pompliano
Bitcoin, AI & $40 Trillion in Debt: What Happens Next? | Tillman Holloway
47 minutes Posted Nov 9, 2026 at 9:30 pm.
Intro1:10 - What AI can learn from bitcoin decentralization4:07 - Securing data & the first party data boom9:41 - Energy grid, demand management & Base Power16:43 - Why volatility is everywhere 20:27 - Do you need AI to invest now?22:48 - Public meets private markets & tokenization26:54 - Bitcoin is backed by compute29:42 - BlackRock, tokenization & the future of lending33:42 - US debt crisis & consumer lending37:11 - Politics, affordability & misinformation43:43 - What’s next for Arch Public?
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Tillman Holloway is the CEO of Arch Public. In this conversation, we break down why volatility is showing up everywhere, what it means for bitcoin, and whether investors now need AI to win. We also discuss decentralizing AI and the energy grid, tokenization, BlackRock’s push into crypto, and the US debt problem.=====================Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy! =====================Figure’s $1,250 Promotion (https://figuremarkets.onelink.me/Plnq/affiliatepompthanksgiving) T&Cs (https://www.figure.com/crypto-backed-loan/thanksgiving-promotion/terms-and-conditions/) Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan, allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms, 8.91% interest rates, and no prepayment penalties. Or check out Democratized Prime (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) and earn ~8.5% APY on real world assets. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://figuremarkets.co/pomp Figure Lending LLC dba Figure (NMLS 1717824). Loans subject to approval. Crypto collateral may be liquidated. Terms apply - see full disclosures at figure.com/disclosures/ =====================Today's episode is sponsored by Abra. Hold bitcoin with a plan: explore bitcoin-backed borrowing for liquidity or a BTC-denominated yield strategy managed by Abra Capital Management. Learn about options, terms, and risks at abra.com/pomp. Borrowing may trigger liquidation; investment strategies may lose principal.Paid sponsorship. Not investment advice.=====================0:00 - Intro1:10 - What AI can learn from bitcoin decentralization4:07 - Securing data & the first party data boom9:41 - Energy grid, demand management & Base Power16:43 - Why volatility is everywhere 20:27 - Do you need AI to invest now?22:48 - Public meets private markets & tokenization26:54 - Bitcoin is backed by compute29:42 - BlackRock, tokenization & the future of lending33:42 - US debt crisis & consumer lending37:11 - Politics, affordability & misinformation43:43 - What’s next for Arch Public?