Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast
Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast
MS NOW, Chris Hayes
The 'Broken' U.S. Border with Ken Salazar
46 minutes Posted Jul 28, 2026 at 9:00 am.
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There’s no question that Trump’s 2024 win was in large part driven by chaos at the border. He still polls best in this area even as approval rates fall in other areas like inflation. There’s a lot to discuss about why this is the case. 
Ken Salazar is a former senator from Colorado, served as U.S. Secretary of the Interior in the Obama administration from 2009 to 2013 and as United States ambassador to Mexico from 2021 to 2025. He’s the author of the newly released book, “Borderlands: My Fight for an Inclusive America.” He joins WITHpod to discuss why he says the border is indeed “broken,” what’s needed to fix it and more.