Sophie Andersson is strategic designer at Transformator Design, a Stockholm based Service Design agency. At Transformator they design services based on customer needs and help organisations towards customer centricity. One of those organisations was the Swedish employment agency, together they won the service design award for systemic and cultural change in the public sector.    We were very pleased that we could involve Caroline Enevold, customer-driver business development manager at the employment agency in the interview as well. This shows what real service design is about, service designers working together with their clients as one team.