Rachel speaks with Sabrina Orah Mark about Happily, her collection of essays on fairytales and motherhood which began as a monthly column in The Paris Review. Rachel and Sabrina speak one-on-one over Zoom and then, a few weeks later, at the live-virtual Reading with Rachel salon. Sabrina talks about the fire in her home, writing in the dark, writing in real time, writing about sacred things, the veil of surrealism, teaching outside the academy, writing about kids and parents as a form of protection and what it felt like to—finally—directly write what she really feels.