<p>We talk to marine biologist, policy expert, and conservation strategist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson about why we need to rethink ocean conservation.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/inquiringminds">Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/inquiringminds</a></p>

The Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance

Each week we bring you a new, in-depth exploration of the space where science and society collide. We’re committed to the idea that making an effort to understand the world around you though science and critical thinking can benefit everyone—and lead to better decisions. We want to find out what’s true, what’s left to discover, and why it all matters.