Jeff DeCagna, executive advisor of Foresight First, joins in to talk with Beth about recognizing the duty of foresight and using it to build resilience. Of course, he doesn't mean predicting the future but rather the ability or the choice to look forward. He explains how embracing the idea of foresight can lead to building resilience and help manage risks. They explore the idea of emphasizing governing over governance and how to encourage the people you're working with to see governing as an active process. DeCagna also discusses the difference between being a volunteer and being a voluntary contributor, and much more.