Director Rian Johnson talks to Simon about Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Plus the UK Box Office Top 10 and Mark reviews the week's new films including Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Ferdinand, Bingo: King Of The Mornings and Mountain.

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