Long talk with our good friend Gary who really set the example of how we run our band on the road and showed us the ropes early on. He is a great guy and has always been there for us in everything we do as people and in the band.--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/8123podcast/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/8123podcast/support