The Atlantic's editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg talks with the CNN anchor Jake Tapper about learning from mistakes in journalism, watching the media destroy someone you know, and what President Trump is getting right. <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/jake-tapper-would-prefer-not-to-be-so-agitated/546038/">Read the transcript</a>. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a>

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