I loved listening to this podcast. It really went in depth and showed how heavens gate was more complicated and how it had evolved over the years. Interviews with survivors and family members made the group seem more alive and identifiable.
The common flaw that can separate a great documentary from a bad one is the documentarians themselves and how much of their biases or they themselves seep into the subject matter.The Host of this podcast inserts himself into the story of Heavens Gate too often and with no real reason. He wasnât a part of it. But his experience with an apocalyptic church that was guilty of segregation when he was young is constantly compared to the Heavens Gate cult. This is like calling Beliebers a cult that would all kill themselves if cult leader Justin Bieber commanded it. The fact that, no doubt, some would doesnât make a fandom into a a dangerous cult. This constant comparison of his comes off ridiculous and he even dedicated an entire episode to his own experience...which is not related to Heavens Gate in any way.You can call a religion a cult and a cult a religion and some are very interchangeable, but the host saying that Heavenâs Gates extraterrestrial infused religious belief system is no more absurd than any other major religion is ridiculous. Most major religions are millennia old and have texts of antiquity to at the very least support them... Heavens Gate was a cheap byproduct of Scientologyâs growing popularity, created by a failed Broadway star and was clearly made up and rewritten as it went along...their suicide pact and its relation to Hale-Bopp Comet abruptly and randomly coming from a late night Cryptozoological radio show in the mid nineties. The cult leader was a man who tried to seek fame before the cults inception and therefore the cult really was meant to only ever serve that means...he was a narcissist. A narcissist who lost control of his cult and he manipulated and murdered 40 people the second he saw an opportunity for a way out. It was easier for him to do that than admit he was a conman who just wanted to be famous.The host of this podcast consistently seems to defend this cult leader and frequently uses language and a tone as if he himself is disappointed to have not been a part of Heavens Gate. The podcast way too often defends and glamorizes Heavens Gate in a manner that seems to insult those family members and it eventually crescendos into a final episode that suggests that maybe Heavens Gate was right and maybe theyâre in their comet tail space ship, ultimately slapping the face of everyone who was devastated by this cult suicide.
Such a good podcast with an amazing narrator. Bravo ðð½ ðð½ðð½ðð½
I really wish this podcast was a little bit more objective instead of trying to tell me how to feel or what to think. Heavens gate is interesting enough without playing up certain notions or going overboard on trying to sell a certain idea or whatever.
I was in college, living in San Diego when this happened. In fact, my journalism advisor was one of the first journalists on the scene and had written an article for the Boston Globe at the time. I remember thinking then that how could people give up on life collectively... however this gives me a great perspective on what happened, how they got there and what I believe was the manipulation of minds and desire and a false pursuit. They didnât know any better and honestly I donât think it was suicide the way we understand suicide.
Thought provoking, riveting and utterly tragic.
Glynn Washington does a stellar job of investigating the history of this mysterious and misunderstood group and its members. It's very well researched, edited, and thoughtfully constructed.
Thank you Glen and the families for telling this story.
Well-crafted story. Suspenseful. Heartfelt. Thought-provoking. Terrific host. An audio documentary of the best kind. Thank you for creating quality work like this!
Either poorly researched or shoddily presented. The time line presented here is impossible. November Art Bell piece does not come before September Heavenâs Gate statement of evacuation. Caster interjects self into an entire episode though his cult ties had no affiliation with Heavenâs Gate. To top it off after each heavy episode ends there is an insensitive piece of audio meant to poke fun at the cultâs participants. Terrible misuse of subject matter. Couldâve been something special.
One episode in and Iâm scrambling for the next. I look forward to neglecting all the things I have to do to liste
They clearly put a lot of effort into making this podcast, but most episodes are very boring. They should of done a much better job of planning the story.The first two episodes were the worst and I almost gave up on the podcast around the middle of the second episode. The later episodes were better but those also werenât great.The majority of this podcast is dull and boring.
Started listening out of curiosity of what makes someone vulnerable to cults, but was soon shocked by how it legitimatized this behavior. I felt at first it was the over dramatic and annoying voice of the narrator and the fact that his own experience and bias was brought in, then I got to the last episode and how it normalized this behavior by comparing it to other religions and based on that, maybe they made it to the spaceship! Come on! Although I realize the thing to do today is to question Christianity, bottom line most religions (including Christianity) donât encourage suicide. Quite the opposite, they teach life is precious and should be protected. To legitimize this cult is irresponsible.
I didnât expect to find this as interesting as I did- great podcast done very well. Excellent quality- canât recommend enough.
I grew up in north county. I was 23 when H. Gate happened and it of course was a hugh story in our sleepy town (Then). Iâve been told the neighbor next to the âMansionâ purchased the house/property. Do you have any information regarding what happened to the house? I drive from Point Loma to leucadia to work everyday and pass the hotel (Holiday Inn) where the two tried to reunite with their friends I was told because the Holiday inn uses a swoosh in their sign. The hotel company has changed. Probably because the room was booked for Iâm not sure how long after.Humans for centuries have had different versions of God.. Thank you I actually enjoyed your interviews with families. God bless them.
Being so young when it happened, I was unaware of the grand scope of it even if it happened in my city and was all over the news. Now after going on this journey I realize how big an event this was and how incredible a story it is. Its such a well made pocast and definitely deserving of your time.
This was an incredibly well produced and researched podcast. I also appreciated the respect and gentleness brought to the interviews with people who are still suffering.
An interesting take, but why zero discussion about how they got the supply of phenobarbital??? Did I miss something? Isnât this critically important in terms of understanding the impact cults and their leaders can potentially have?
Your podcast has gotten really interesting, and Glenn's input brings it to lfe.
I know this is a real story with real survivors, but having Glynn Washington host seems like a miss. He was in a cult when he was younger, so he has credibility for that, but his storytelling style sounds forced and fictional. It makes everything sound more dramatic than it is. Let the story tell itself.
Wish it was better. Narrator is trying too hard. Just give us the facts, donât need your input. Let me interpret it on my own.
Incredible! I came for the stories -- but I stayed for the host. Well done.
I listened to the whole first episode and I heard a LOT of ads sandwiched between âit could have been you, coming right upâ and 30 seconds of dreamy trance music. So if that sounds interesting to you, then by all means, download and drink the kool-aid. Reminds me of the MSNBC joke: âwe put 10 minutes of information into an hour!â I guess if you only have a high school education, this might be interesting to you? Iâm really not sure. Maybe if you canât read? The narrator has a really nice voice. Ooh! If you need something to listen to before you go to bed, this should do the trick. Maybe Iâm just spoiled by all the tight editing & rich storylines from WNYC, Crooked Media & WBEZ. On the Media, Majority 54, This American Life, Freakonomics, Hidden Brain, Criminal, Embedded & Lovett or Leave It are killinâ it right now!
This podcast is so different from others about historical events, true crime, or cults. Itâs more than just facts. It delves into the nuance of the people who joined and left. The host gets personal about his past and shows that the people of Heavenâs Gate arenât as different from us as we think.
I really enjoyed the way this event was told. It's easy to dismiss the members of this group or their beliefs until they dive in and humanize these people. Definitely something I binged on my commute.
Great story, editing, music, etc. but kind of feels like an info-mercial. Like theyâre trying to sell me something. I love cults. I donât need any convincing.
I am so pleased to hear how Glynn and the other reporters and researchers are sympathetic and understanding of the members of Heaven's Gate. I think that so often, when we talk about cults, we victim blame saying they should have known or that they knew what they walking into. This podcast peels back some of those layers and looks at part of what makes cults so scary, that you don't know what's coming or how the group will change. I really appreciate the tenderness and honesty with which these stories are being told.
Glynn is an excellent host. He is warm and personable. The podcast is interesting and informative. I loved the different perspectives brought in. Binged the whole thing in one night! â¤ï¸â¤ï¸â¤ï¸
The end wasn't as impactful as I had expected, but the bulk of this podcast is so intriguing, especially the questions you have to ask yourself while you're listening.
Growing up in a cult and finding my way out has been tough. Hearing the interviews from former members was difficult but refreshing to know that others have survived and continue on. To the creators of the podcast: please make more series like this about other groups.
The podcast started a little slow for me. But by episode 4 I was hooked! Great interviews with former members as well as the narrators childhood in a cult.
Very well done, the interviews, tapes and also hearing about GWâs cult experience. Paints a scary story about people willingly giving up their freedom for half baked ideas.
I've listened to the entire series... well done! A very thoughtful, empathetic and well-rounded take on an intriguing and mystifying tragedy that captivated our nation decades ago. Bravo!
Now that Iâve heard all 10 episodes, Iâm going through withdrawals. Loved the podcast and the storytelling. Would have liked to hear more about how/why the surviving class members left the group. But other than that, itâs perfect.
I love the subject of cults. This podcast gives you an in-depth look at Heaven's Gate. Very well told and easy to listen to.
I love the topic and the narrator, but all the background noise and the music and the tonal shifts triggers my migraine and ear sensitivity... which kills me because I want to know more!
This podcast normalizes major mental illness too much. The thesis that any of us could end up a member of HG (âThere but for the grace of God go I...â) is naive, misleading, andâon the face of itâfalse. Most of us would not, in fact, castrate and/or kill ourselves to join a spaceship that we heard about on midnight radio. I think presenting the story in these terms is disrespectful to the families of these unfortunate people.
Glynns voice, compassion and original Take was a revelation. He sought out members of the Class, the families left behind and an expert, all of which are articulate authentic human beings. I cried a few times, but laughed a few too.
Quality podcasts are hard to find. This is one.
An amazing deep dive into this group. A masterpiece in podcasting.
This podcast is well done. Very interesting and well produced.
One of the most compelling aspects of this story is in the telling of it. Only Glenn Washington could have brought this group into focus. Thank you for your thoughtful and honest take on this and the cult mentality.
One of the best podcasts out there. So informative, great storytelling, & Glynn Washington is such a great host - he brings a clarity and empathy to this disturbing topic that is so appreciated.
A real gem! This is a fascinating and compassionate look at the people of Heavenâs Gate. Glynn Washington is an enchanting storyteller who takes the time to reveal the humanity behind the identically dressed bodies found in a Southern California mansion. This podcast is more than a cult study, or true crime story- itâs an examination of the sociology and psychology that led to a certain sequence of events, and an examination of what went wrong (or right). Definitely give this a chance if you are interested- itâs not as dark as I thought it would be. Itâs full of love and light and compassion.
I learned so much more about this cult. This is an excellent podcast that looks into every area of Heavens Gate.
Great podcast. Interesting, well narrated, and a great look into the cult Heavens Gate.
This was a great series! Very well researched with captivating story telling. One of the best podcast on cults Iâve heard. With so much information, different perspectives, and handled with such respect on the subject this is an absolutely a must hear!
No new insights into the group, didn't hear anything that wasn't already widely known about the group. The most interesting component to the whole podcast (the host being raised in a cult) is mostly ignored and only brought up in one episode...seems like a wasted opportunity to bring an interesting perspective to this tragedy. Just surface level. Big disappointment.
My views on religion have been torn down to the foundation over the last year or so. This podcast added more clarity to my decision to give it all up. I was glued to every episode.
Listen to this podcast, even if you think you might not like it! Glen has such a great hosting voice and he comes with great perspective. I love true crime stories but started listening because I needed a new podcast. This was SO INTERESTING and I felt so many emotions throughout this story! Very, very moving but also so eye opening! Definitely worth a listen to! Also, Ben Zellar is the man, he knows his stuff... I enjoyed listening to him!