In the second part, we have a rare moment of lucidity and discuss the differences between plotters and pantsers, and why all four of us are hybrid writers. Ben then gave some details on his unique outlining/writing method.

Thankfully, the lucid moment passed, and we got kinda off-track again when talking about snacks, and why Ben is now sadly caffeine-free :(  (on that note, I've just run out of Skittles while typing these notes - Aaron) We then shift into familiar rabbit trial territory and Ben talks about making bets with his future fiancee (Aaron, Josh, and Liberty are all married, and caution Ben never to mention this in public... oops...)

Next, we, ah, well, it's probably a good thing Ben's not on with us on every episode, or we'd never make any sense...

Ben talks about his experiences using Kickstarter to fund IPAL, and what he's learned from that. And, to wrap things up, we talk about why authors should never do their own book covers. (Well, unless you're a graphic designer or something...)

Things we talked about:

Ben Wolf I'd Punch a Lion In the Eye For You Blood For Blood ACFW Conferences Ben Powell (author and illustrator for Ben's children's book) Frank Peretti (The Oath) Robert Liparulo Tosca Lee Ted Dekker Randy Ingermanson (Writing Fiction for Dummies) Chris Morris, CPA.