This week it is my extra special pleasure to be speaking with one of the co-originators of permaculture itself, David Holmgren. David is an author, educator, designer, activist and permaculturalist (obviously) with many decades experience. He joins us today to talk about his fantastic new project and accompanying book, Retrosuburbia, the details for which you will find in the show notes. Extremely good times. Show Notes <ul> <li><a href="https://www.retrosuburbia.com/">Retrosuburbia website</a>.</li> <li>Buy the Book: <a href= "https://us.permacultureprinciples.com/product/retrosuburbia/?ref=1"> US</a>, <a href= "http://www.ragmans.co.uk/shop/retrosuburbiaholmgren/">UK</a>, <a href= "https://store.holmgren.com.au/product/retrosuburbia/">AU</a></li> <li>Retrosuburbia on Facebook: <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/RetroSuburbia/?ref=br_rs">Page</a>, <a href= "https://www.facebook.com/groups/retrosuburbia/about/">Group</a>.</li> <li><a href="https://twitter.com/HolmgrenDesign">Holmgren Design on Twitter</a>.</li> </ul> Note: There is extra material for this episode at the post page on runesoup.com

Talking Dark Politics and the Imagination | Gary Lachman

Rune Soup is a podcast channel that platforms the most important discussions at the cutting edge of magic, animism and spirit work.

Gordon is chaos magician, shamanic practitioner, podcaster, author and permaculture designer with a background in data and analytics gained at some of the world's largest media companies. He is the author of four books on magic, animism and star lore: Star.Ships: A Prehistory of the Spirits, The Chaos Protocols, Pieces of Eight and Ani.Mystic: Encounters With A Living Cosmos.

When not travelling, Gordon hosts his weekly show, Rune Soup, from a small permaculture farm in southern Tasmania.