The new Apple TV came out this week, and both Walt and Nilay wrote reviews. Will they finally disagree? And can anyone crack the TV puzzle? It’s all up in the air, or in the cloud, or wherever stuff goes now, in 2015. Join us, but not on your new Apple TV, which lacks a podcast app for some reason. Airplay. Use Airplay. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

Nilay and Walt start a smartphone company

Enjoy the archives of this retired series featuring legendary technology columnist Walt Mossberg and The Verge’s editor-in-chief Nilay Patel. The series finale aired on June 13, 2017, shortly before Walt’s well-deserved retirement. For more on what’s happening now (and next) in technology and gadgets, listen and subscribe to The Vergecast.