This week on Unorthodox, Ivanka Trump steals a kugel. Our Jewish guest is Naftali Hanau, founder of Grow and Behold Foods, the Brooklyn-based purveyor of kosher meat from animals raised on family farms with no hormones or antibiotics. He tells us about being trained as a kosher butcher, or shochet, and why he’s made it his mission to provide ethically-produced kosher meat. Our Gentile of the Week is Glynn Washington, host of NPR’s Snap Judgment. He talks about what it takes to tell stories on the radio and how he knows when he's got a great one.

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Music credits for this episode (in order): 

"Unorthodox Theme Song" by Golem

"Teddy Bears' Picnic" by John Walter Bratton and performed by Henry Hall & his Orchestra

"Theme from Schindler's List" by John Williams

"Fairweather Fiends"  by Polyrhythmics

"Don't Dream It's Over" by Crowded House

"Spinning" by Nangdo

"Come to Me" by Hyson

"California" by Phantom Planet