Bryan and Katie Torwalt’s recent EP, Praise Before My Breakthrough, is a bit unusual for worship artists. It’s a deeply personal collection of songs talking about struggle, pain and trusting God in the midst of hard seasons. It doesn’t have the neatly tied up answers. It wasn’t written on the “victory” side of things. It’s vulnerable and a little bit messy. Listen in as the couple joins Cameron to talk about the project, their journeys—and even geeking out a little at the Grammys.