Canon Michael Sayward believes that the Virgin Conception is an attested historical fact, and an essential doctrine for Christian belief. Unitarian minister Sarah Tinker believes it to be a "beautiful myth" that should not be taken literally. They debate and we hear listener phone calls, response to the last few weeks of programming as well as tackling the "Jesus is a plagiarism of Pagan Gods" argument.

Get involved in the discussion at:

www.premiercommunity.org.uk/group/unbelievable/forum/topics/virgin-birth-fact-or-fiction

For more defense of the Christmas story see the show of 22 Dec 07

To hear more discussions between Christians and non-Christians go to www.premier.org.uk/unbelievable.