This week I welcome to the pod YY Brandon Chen, Brietta Clark, and Medha Makhlouf. We have a broad discussion about the intersection of health care and immigration policy. We look at federal initiatives such as the proposed public charge rule and existing federal restrictions on providing healthcare to “newcomers.” Our guests explain attributes of the Canadian and Californian systems that, rather than being exceptional and progressive example, themselves in their detail illustrate some of the broader discussions we are (or should be) having.