In Episode 5 Ian and Suzanne interview Mike McHargue, host of the popular podcast Ask Science Mike and co-host of the podcast The Liturgists. Tune in as Science Mike dissects and explains his life as an Enneagram 9 (The Peacemaker). Before its over, you'll learn how the Enneagram can help you:

• Assert and express yourself with confidence.
• Be who you are rather than "merge" with the crowd. 
• Identify and overcome your blind spots.
• See life through the eyes of others
• Learn how healthy conflict produces intimacy

Join Ian and Suzanne as they marvel at Science Mike's firsthand observations on why the Enneagram is such a valuable tool for developing self-knowledge and understanding relationships. It's always an adventure but today it's well scientific!