Mike talks with Daniel Golden, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Daniel Golden, author of Spy Schools: How the CIA, FBI, and Foreign Intelligence Secretly Exploit America's Universities (http://amzn.to/2n34ACy) They discuss how widespread spying is (a lot more widespread than Mike thought, that's for sure), if schools that are recruiting more international students are more vulnerable, how Trump administration immigration policies are likely to affect spying in colleges and universities, and lots more. Dan Golden on Twitter | https://twitter.com/DanLGolden

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