On The Gist, <a href="https://twitter.com/kenpstern">Ken Stern</a> explains why the deplorable label doesn’t sit well with him, even if it’s defensible. Stern is the author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0062460781/?tag=slatmaga-20">Republican Like Me: How I Left the Liberal Bubble and Learned to Love the Right</a>. In the Spiel, is life better in the U.S. or Europe? Mike considers it with <a href="https://twitter.com/davidplotz">David Plotz</a>, CEO of <a href="https://www.atlasobscura.com/">Atlas Obscura</a>. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.