Introductions Stella’s background, Apartheid, politics, the arts, Julian Assange legal team 6:35 Motivations of joining and studying law and politics – Idealism, justice, society 10:35 Growing up in the coming of age of the internet – Wikileaks, Iraq War Logs, new journalism 12:30 Jarrad’s inspirations – International Subversives Magazine, Cypherpunk Mailing lists, more 14:00 The US prosecution against Julian Assange – a political test, and failure of the justice system 18:20 Information asymmetry, Edward Snowden, and the movement towards open information 20:15 Wikileaks grew out of a culture in which the government should be open 25:50 Jarrad’s journey into civil libertarianism and building Logos 29:00 Carrying on the torch of Ethereum – building censorship resistant cyber states31:20 Stella’s introduction to crypto by Julian – 2011 meeting with Google about Bitcoin 34:35 Bitcoin is the real Occupy Wall Street – How cryptography can make a real world impact 37:00 Preserving reality as the tools to manipulate it become more powerful 39:55 Social media censorship and Wikileaks adoption of BTC 42:00 Arab Spring, Wikileaks utility in Tunisia, Egypt and around the world 45:15 Crypto and the need for alternative system, communities, and modes of organising 50:30 A dangerous, post-state system and surveillance capitalism 54:50 Underlying causes for a shift in behavior and the “War on Terror” 59:00 What does Julian Assange case mean for journalism, activism, liberties, and human rights 1:12:40 An update on Julian Assange’s precarious legal situation 1:20:10 Free Speech, activism, and the course the world has taken since Julian's imprisonment.