Ben Orenstein is joined by Avdi Grimm, software developer, author, and podcaster. Ben and Avdi discuss Emacs, Avdi's personal assistant and delegating work. They also discuss naming and finding implicit concepts in your code, encoding processes as objects in their own right, his publishing and podcasting, the pronunciation of Parley, Ruby Tapas, education resources and the benefits of open source languages, his goals, the most civilized way to travel, and what we got wrong about the Law of Demeter.

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<li><a href="http://www.rubyrep.com">Mandy Moore, Assistance for Software Professionals</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.rubytapas.com">Ruby Tapas</a></li>
<li><a href="http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?MethodObject">MethodObject</a></li>
<li><a href="http://objectsonrails.com">Objects on Rails</a></li>
<li><a href="http://exceptionalruby.com/">Exceptional Ruby</a></li>
<li><a href="http://devblog.avdi.org/2012/06/05/confident-ruby-beta/">Confident Ruby</a></li>
<li><a href="http://rubyrogues.com">Ruby Rogues podcast</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.wideteams.com">Wide Teams</a></li>
<li><a href="https://parley.rubyrogues.com/">Ruby Rogues Parley</a></li>
<li><a href="http://learn.thoughtbot.com/podcast/27">GRSIOGR podcast on Law of Demeter, Episode 27: Fabulous new mistakes</a></li>
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40: He's winking at me

A podcast about the design, development, and business of great software. Each week thoughtbot's Chad Pytel is joined by the people who build and nurture the products we love.